Captain Ron Janix found Contact in the Desert the way most people find the things that change their lives, by accident.

In this episode, Dan speaks with Captain Ron about what it actually means to build a space for people who’ve seen something they can’t explain, believe something they can’t prove, and need to be with others who feel the same way.

Ron shares how he went from celebrity personal assistant to conference co-owner, what it takes to hold the full spectrum of the UAP community under one roof, and whether the act of gathering itself could be doing something more than anyone planned.

In this conversation, they explore:

• How Ron built an online community during COVID when the real world went dark
• What he actually thinks the phenomenon is, after years of listening to everyone else’s theories
• Why he programs a skywatch he has absolutely no intention of attending
• The synchronicities that seem to follow Contact in the Desert
• What the conference looks like the day after disclosure

And much, much more!

If you’ve ever felt called to this subject without knowing why, this conversation is for you.

Links: 
Get tickets here: https://contactinthedesert.com/
Captain Ron’s Podcast, Beyond Contact: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-beyond-contact-176825196/

Remember to be curious – the universe is bigger than we know!

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Hayden Calnin

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